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November 24
Please remind me—how should I deal with an anonymous reversion of an edit of mine?
Greetings and felicitations. An edit of mine was reverted by a MAC-address user. How do I deal with this, please? —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:02, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see that you posted about this on the article talk page on 1 November to look for consensus, which would have been my first suggestion. It would be helpful to explain the reason for the edit on the talk page, was your edit a manual of style correction? TSventon (talk) 05:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- On the talk page, you should cite Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Dashes, which explicitly recommens "An em dash is unspaced on both sides". Maproom (talk) 09:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- On an unrelated note, please be aware that it was reverted by an IPv6 user, not a MAC address, they look similar but are indeed different things. TiggerJay (talk) 20:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
I would be happy to donate by check, but do not use electronic methods of payment. Please let me know how to donate. My email address is <redacted>. Thank you.
I would be happy to donate by check, but do not use electronic methods of payment. Please let me know how to donate. My email address is <redacted>. Thank you. 208.254.116.194 (talk) 06:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- See donate:Donate by mail. But do note that the Wikimedia Foundation generally has more than enough money. * Pppery * it has begun... 06:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Template:Antisemitism sidebar
Can we get a few eyes over at Template talk:Antisemitism sidebar#People section (Nov 2024) Moxy🍁 07:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Appears to be well at hand. Does it need EC protection? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 17:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Citation template
It seems that the preferred way of referencing has changed over time. For instance, I started up earlier this year the WP article titled, "American Junior Red Cross." I used the old referencing method. What is the purpose of inserting retrieval dates? They serve no purpose when links go to depositories like HathiTrust. The content in printed newspapers and magazines can't be updated. Is the current citation template now preferred in all instances? Should my references at "American Junior Red Cross" be rewritten? (The only reference there using the standard template is not mine.) Thanks. JimPercy (talk) 14:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- JimPercy,
|access-date=
is entirely unnecessary cruft when applied to print sources. Not only are you not required to add it, but you can remove it or comment it out from citations to print sources if you prefer. It tends to get added to everything by scripts that don't know any better. Folly Mox (talk) 17:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)- Relevant discussion at Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 91 § Do we need |access-date ? (November 2023). Folly Mox (talk) 17:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is guidance on changing citation styles at WP:CITEVAR, which starts by saying
Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely on the grounds of personal preference or to make it match other articles, without first seeking consensus for the change
. TSventon (talk) 17:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for both replies. I know that an article's citation style should not be altered. But some people might still think that modernization is in order. That discussion page was interesting. I will have to go over the different thoughts again later. Someone said something about how there should be a template that automatically deletes access dates for magazines and newspapers. JimPercy (talk) 21:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Struggling with merging and moving articles in relation to the Emily Prentiss article.
I have been struggling with merging and moving the Emily Prentiss article. I have a draft for Emily Prentiss (a Criminal Minds character) that I'd like to move to mainspace, but the only way I know how to do that would be to copy and paste the content onto the current page for Emily Prentiss, which serves as a redirect to the List of Criminal Minds characters. However, I think I might have accidentally messed that up, and now I'm confused on what to do.
Here are the links to the articles in question if someone can help:
List of Criminal Minds characters
Emily Prentiss (Criminal Minds)
Draft:Emily Prentiss DocZach (talk) 17:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @DocZach. I'm not seeing why this character meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability; but if you think she does, the way to proceed to move a draft over a redirect is to post a request at WP:RM/T. ColinFine (talk) 17:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Retain or remove citation indicators in quoted text?
Example article text:
- There are "two ways to go about this¹ that deserve consideration",¹ one of them "far more preferable for enlightenment purposes (Gergen, 1990) than the other low-information approach."²
The direct quotes from two cited sources each use different citation indicator styles, one with superscripts the other with parentheses.
My question is, for readability, can I remove one or both of the citation indicators, ie: ¹, (Gergen, 1990)?
Thanks! Tsavage (talk) 19:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tsavage, it looks like the the parenthetical reference is part of the quoted material rather than a citation in Wikipedia, while the numbers are for Wikipedia citations. It might help to know what article this is from to see the context. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. There's no particular context, it's a general question, with a made-up example. I'm referring to citations as they appear in quoted material, not citations created in Wikipedia.
- My understanding right now (which could be wrong), is that superscript and parentheses are equivalent citation styles, both intended for exactly the same purpose of pointing to a footnoted source; although the parenthetical style provides extra information (eg: author, year), that is not intentional, it's not meant to add to the text. Tsavage (talk) 22:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- This wouldn't be the correct place to ask a question for things that are outside of Wikipedia. But if you were thinking about bringing a quotation into Wikipedia, then inline citations that are part of the quote itself, such as Gergen above, could be kept as they are the quoted source materials reference. However the superscript reference would be replaced with a natural wikipedia based reference tag. TiggerJay (talk) 22:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- || the superscript reference would be replaced with a natural wikipedia based reference tag
- If the source text uses citations in the superscript number style, are you suggesting that I recreate those citations in the quoted material in Wikipedia?
- All I'm asking is whether it is accepted practice to remove the citation indicators, regardless of what style they're in, when quoting material in the text of a Wikipedia article? Tsavage (talk) 01:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tsavage, I think the answer is likely to depend on the details of a particular article, so it would be better to come back with a real example if you find one. Wikipedia only uses
Brief quotations of copyrighted text
, see Wikipedia:Non-free content#Text, so putting the content into your own words may be preferable. TSventon (talk) 04:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- Thanks. There's no "real example", I'm trying to find out if there's a Wikipedia convention for this situation. I think the general, or at least safest, answer is to preserve citation indicators in quoted text, in order to fully represent the source. Which is what I'll do! Tsavage (talk) 11:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tsavage, I agree that preserving citation indicators is safest. The question is somewhat obscure, so you could try the WP:MOS talk page when you have a real example. TSventon (talk) 11:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. There's no "real example", I'm trying to find out if there's a Wikipedia convention for this situation. I think the general, or at least safest, answer is to preserve citation indicators in quoted text, in order to fully represent the source. Which is what I'll do! Tsavage (talk) 11:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tsavage, I think the answer is likely to depend on the details of a particular article, so it would be better to come back with a real example if you find one. Wikipedia only uses
- This wouldn't be the correct place to ask a question for things that are outside of Wikipedia. But if you were thinking about bringing a quotation into Wikipedia, then inline citations that are part of the quote itself, such as Gergen above, could be kept as they are the quoted source materials reference. However the superscript reference would be replaced with a natural wikipedia based reference tag. TiggerJay (talk) 22:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Searching Wikipedia with Regex with Capture?
I have a more complicated use case, but I'm wondering whether any of the message of searching Wikipedia would allow for searching *with* capture, so for example if I'd like to find pages where AAA Pan BBB Pan CCC would be found because it is Pan in both places, but *not* AAA Pan BBB Pot CCC because Pan and Pot are different.
(Actual use case, looking for pages with entries like [[Omega Psi Phi|Omega Psi Phi fraternity]] so regex would be
/\[\[[A-Z][a-z]* [A-Z][a-z]* [A-Z][a-z]*\|\1 /
) Is Cirrus my only option (or would even *that* allow it)
Naraht (talk) 22:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Cirrus doesn't support it, no - its regex engine is frustratingly impractical for anything even a little more complex than toy examples. And I'm not aware of any other way to search wikitext without expending a huge amount of effort, namely, downloading a dump of mainspace, either importing it into a sql engine or parsing it yourself or with WP:AWB, and searching that. —Cryptic 23:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Request a query. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Would tell you to come back here or WP:VPT. "Quarry does not have access to page content, so queries which require checking wikitext cannot be answered with Quarry." We'd be able to see pages with links to Omega Psi Phi, but not the text it's piped to, or even that it's piped. —Cryptic 07:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Naraht: See Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser#AutoWikiBrowser_and_searching_for_pages_with_capture_regex. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
HelpedNaraht (talk) 13:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
November 25
Dara Huang
Re number 5 is not quite right. Please fix - I cannot do this, sorry. Srbernadette (talk) 03:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Srbernadette Fixed. There was a special character in the date parameter, and the date was incomplete. Sandcat555 (talk) 03:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Automated edit count?
Would anyone know if it's possible to automate the edit count figure on my user page? Sandcat555 (talk) 03:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- perhaps with a bot or something? Sandcat555 (talk) 03:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I could have sworn this was possible, but the best I can find for you right now is Template:Editcount. -- asilvering (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Various stats for your account are available here: https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Sandcat555 and are usually up to date (occasionally there can be a lag of a couple of minutes). Feline Hymnic (talk) 12:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but that won't automate the edit count on someone's userpage. -- asilvering (talk) 16:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering Would a bot somehow be able to see the wmcloud page and then auto edit my userpage? Sandcat555 (talk) 21:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Bot requests/Frequently denied bots#Bots to update edit counts. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter Dang. I was really hoping this was a thing. Sandcat555 (talk) 03:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Bot requests/Frequently denied bots#Bots to update edit counts. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering Would a bot somehow be able to see the wmcloud page and then auto edit my userpage? Sandcat555 (talk) 21:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Feline Hymnic I already have that linked on my userpage. I was wondering if the actual number can be automatically updated Sandcat555 (talk) 21:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Sandcat555 If you activate the gadget navigation popups then one of the things you get when you hover over another user's name (or your own) is information including edit count. That's all I need to see you are currently at 765 edits. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but that won't automate the edit count on someone's userpage. -- asilvering (talk) 16:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Various stats for your account are available here: https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Sandcat555 and are usually up to date (occasionally there can be a lag of a couple of minutes). Feline Hymnic (talk) 12:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I could have sworn this was possible, but the best I can find for you right now is Template:Editcount. -- asilvering (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
(untitled)
I gave you $110 a few years ago. Seeing that you're constantly begging for a $2.75 "donation", I should be exempt for the next 33+ years. 2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365 (talk) 07:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has no way to link donations to a specific account or IP address. You are not obliged to donate, and if you don't want to, you can always close the annoying ads. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- One of the problems with IP editing is that you do get to see regular messages asking for donations. If you are logged in as a user, you can avoid this.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- You both read my mind; FYI, see what I said above about concerns over donations. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 13:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- One of the problems with IP editing is that you do get to see regular messages asking for donations. If you are logged in as a user, you can avoid this.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Help with NPS sources
Hello,
NPS nomination forms have a section for "representation in existing surveys," as seen here on the bottom of the first page. What does this mean? Does it have something to do with a broader area-wide geographic survey, or a more specific historical site survey? Thanks so much!
JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 09:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Answered at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Help with NPS sources
- JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 22:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Signature
Hello, I'm trying to make my signature but it can't be fixed. Here's what my signature should look like: Garudam Talk!
But as you can see it's currently messed. Please someone tell me how it can be fixed? And what error I'm making in this syntax: '''<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color:black">'''Garudam'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!''''']]</sup></span>''' (talk) 12:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Garudam: Select "Treat the above as wiki markup" below the signature field. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter I did exactly but it shows some syntax error like "span" '''<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color:black">'''Garudam'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!''''']]</sup></span>''' (talk) 12:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Garudam: You are missing two
</span>
as the message should say. Adding them should work:'''<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color: black;">'''Garudam'''</span>]]</span> '''<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!'''''</span>]]</sup>
. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- That helps @PrimeHunter Thanks. Garudam Talk! 13:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Garudam: You are missing two
- @PrimeHunter I did exactly but it shows some syntax error like "span" '''<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color:black">'''Garudam'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!''''']]</sup></span>''' (talk) 12:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
John Perrot Quaker - Add image
Hi, I have uploaded a copyright free Wikimedia Commons image of the above but am struggling to incorporate it in the article. Your help would be much appreciated, I used to be able to do this but I'm getting old!
Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Horatius At The Bridge: I have added it to {{Infobox person}} with
|image=
.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- Many thanks PrimeHunter
- Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 13:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Margaret Greville
There are two pages about Margaret Greville. I am a Research Historian - as a Volunteer at Polesden Lacey. I have written a book also which is the Maggie Greville Story. I have researched for more than thirteen years the history of Maggie Greville, her father William McEwan and Polesden Lacey. I wish to change the existing article totally.It contains misinformation. It is not correct. I have a huge number of references to prove my research. How can I remove the existing article and provide a new article which tells the truth, and is far more interesting? 13truthknown (talk) 14:11, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @13truthknown You do not start a new article, you improve the existing one, one bit at a time. A WP-article on any subject is meant to be a summary of reliable sources (WP:RS) on that subject, and if you wish to make edits that can "stick", you need to understand what sources are considered reliable around here, and guidance like WP:SELFCITE. You need to know how to add references correctly in the WP-environment, this is essential, WP:TUTORIAL has a start on that.
- My suggestion is: start small. Make a few edits, see what happens, then make a few more. If other editors react, WP:COMMUNICATE. Do not throw out existing sources in favor of your book. If your book is WP:SELFPUB, don't use it as a source at all. Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Btw, if you meant there are two WP-articles about Margaret Greville, which is the other one, please? That might need fixing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @13truthknown Incidentally, Wikipedia doesn't claim to give readers the truth (see that link). Instead, by policy, we ensure that facts in our articles can be verified from the sources we quote. The article on Margaret Greville was first created in 2007 and has been improved incrementally by many editors since then, which is why you should follow Gråbergs Gråa Sång's advice. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @13truthknown, as has already been said, a self-written book, particularly if self-published or published by a vanity press is never going to be an acceptable source. If you have access to proper independent verifiable sources, by all means use them to improve the article, but no original research please Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Margaret Greville, 6th Baroness Willoughby de Broke is a different person Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @13truthknown, as has already been said, a self-written book, particularly if self-published or published by a vanity press is never going to be an acceptable source. If you have access to proper independent verifiable sources, by all means use them to improve the article, but no original research please Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @13truthknown Incidentally, Wikipedia doesn't claim to give readers the truth (see that link). Instead, by policy, we ensure that facts in our articles can be verified from the sources we quote. The article on Margaret Greville was first created in 2007 and has been improved incrementally by many editors since then, which is why you should follow Gråbergs Gråa Sång's advice. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just a heads-up that an SPA removed a referenced section regarding Greville's pro-Nazi inclinations Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Username
Help please every username I offer has been taken no matter how random Gnasher24 (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Gnasher24, you already have a Wikipedia account (your username is @Gnasher24). So unsure what you are asking here? qcne (talk) 16:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also, WP has over 116 million registered user-accounts, that's quite a lot of taken user-names. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gnasher24 Gnasher25 is available (etc). Shantavira|feed me 17:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gnasher24 You can use Special:ListUsers to search over existing usernames and see what might be available. Read the instructions at the top of that page carefully. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- A username can also be rejected if it looks too similar to an existing name. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gnasher24 You can use Special:ListUsers to search over existing usernames and see what might be available. Read the instructions at the top of that page carefully. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Suggested edits paused
Hello, I noticed that my suggested edits have been paused until December 1, 2024. The notification mentioned some contributions were reverted, but I wasn't provided with specific details. Could someone please help clarify why this happened and how I can resolve it? Thank you. Lokkyboy ([User talk : Lokkyboy|talk]) 17:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lokkyboy (talk • contribs)
- I can't tell what you are referring to. Please clarify: where did you make these suggested edits? ColinFine (talk) 19:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think they are referring to the Suggested edits widget on Special:Homepage qcne (talk) 20:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Lokkyboy: You have apparently encountered a feature specific to the Android app: mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks#Suggested Edits 3.0 - Improved Suggested Edits Homescreen and Feature Pausing (released 25 November 2019). I had not heard about it before and don't know what triggered it. The only edits at Special:Contributions/Lokkyboy with the "Reverted" tag are four edits in April and May 2022. I don't know whether the feature looks back so far when you have few edits since then. I suggest you just try again after December 1 if you want to use suggested edits. You are free to edit in other ways, e.g. finding tasks at Wikipedia:Community portal#Help out. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think they are referring to the Suggested edits widget on Special:Homepage qcne (talk) 20:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
November 26
Asking for views about validity of an List of public elementary schools in New York City
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I was unsure where to ask this question, so I would like to post a redirection from here to my question.
Wikipedia:Teahouse#Validity_of_an_Wikipedia:Notability_§_Stand-alone_lists_article
It is a question of the validity of an article in English. TarantaBabu (talk) 10:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @TarantaBabu no need to crosspost. Both the Teahouse and Help desk are for asking questions related to editing Wikipedia. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Mobile app logout issue
I'm using am Android phone, using dark mode for the Wikipedia app. On the mobile app, usually when I load talk pages, they render as a white mode web page, and I'll be logged out. Sometimes I can work around it, but both the work around and the error aren't consistent.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 16:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the error occurs if I directly open the talk page link - if I navigate there from the article/Wikipedia space via the drop down, then it works fine and I'm not logged out.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 16:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd also check out this Android app FAQ to see if there's a way around it (to my knowledge, you'll have to try going through here via your browser). 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 16:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, this sometimes happens to me, as well. But I'm using the website on iOS Safari, not the Android app. And I've never had any issues with logging back in. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 09:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- It wouldn't be that much of an issue if I could figure out how to log back in when this happens. But I can't find anywhere to do that.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Indigenous identity friad
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello I have attempted to go through the proper channels in wiki. A profile is being inaccurately listed as indigenous for a person who has no indigenous ancestry. This type of misinformation is a form of colonial erasure and upholds racism. I have opened what I hope would be a dialogue about it, as an indigenous person myself this is a very important issue to me but instead of being heard with understanding the person in the chat and who is exclusively modifying this wiki page is arguing with me and gaslighting my valid concerns. Can somebody who is not bias please come be apart of this discussion and hear out why they change is necessary and should be protected. This is the dialogue. Talk:Jani Lauzon#Identity Fraud 135.12.162.209 (talk) 17:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see, and (forgive me if I misread this) it's a case of pretending to be indigenous when, apparently and accordingly, she's not. This is backed by reliable sources, right? You may, if necessary, bring this to the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 17:06, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- It should be noted that [2] doesn't provide evidence supporting the conclusion that Lauzon is not Indigenous. I did cite it in the article as evidence that her identity has been called into question, but since the evidence isn't shown in the report like it is for other reporting on "Pretendians", I think accepting it as fact enough to remove "Metis" from the lede would fall foul of WP:GRAPEVINE. AceSevenFive (talk) 18:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to me that you claim to have actual, reliable evidence that she isn't indigenous. Yet you refuse to provide it, citing privacy issues. No one's going to force you to reveal it, but unless you do, you cannot reasonably expect us to just take your word for it. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 09:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Now it's gone way too far... 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Island of Montreal
Hello,
On the page Island of Montreal, the map in the infobox displays the place name to the right of the coordinates, overlapping with the data under the map. Would someone know how to put the place name above the coordinates, as there is plenty of space there? Thanks.
17:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC) ActiveContributor2020 (talk) 17:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ActiveContributor2020: I have added
pushpin_label_position = top
and {{nowrap}}.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 18:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Sandbox to Draft namespace
Hi, I have a draft about Dodge Woodall in my sandbox: Sandbox.
Could someone help move it to the Draft namespace with the title `Draft:Dodge Woodall`?
I don’t meet the auto confirmed requirements yet (4 days old, 10 edits), and I need to publish this ASAP.
Thank you! Josh Haines (talk) 18:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Josh Haines If you add the template {{User sandbox}} to the top of your sandbox, it will give you a link which will allow you to submit the draft directly for review. There is no need to move it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Josh Haines -- a few things on this topic. Before moving it over, please take some time to review WP:BLP as this article still has some problems that should be addressed before you bring more attention to it, and it might subsequently be speedily deleted. The second is to take a moment to look at WP:PAID as it looks like (based on your username) you might have a financial relationship with Woodall. Creating such articles are not prohibited, but they can be problematic for people who do not understand the processes involved. TiggerJay (talk) 18:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your feedback, could you please notify me as to how to cater to the things you've just told me?
- What would you recommend changing quickly to avoid deletion? Josh Haines (talk) 19:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- You might start by removing bold text, overly promotional language, and the rather spammy links. You also need to find better sources. See WP:BLP. Shantavira|feed me 19:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- What I would recommend is that you take a moment and click on those blue links that start with WP listed above. Read through those and apply as appropriate. TiggerJay (talk) 22:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Why the need to publish this ASAP, Josh Haines? -- Hoary (talk) 21:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
November 27
adding a page
Hi, I just joined on as an editor. I am referenced on many pages on Wikipedia but don't have my own page to link those reference to. Instead, they are credited to someone who has the same name as me. I want to rectify this by adding myself and information on a brand new page. Any advice from folks on how best to accomplish this? Cewal21 (talk) 01:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. Based on your question, it sounds like you want to add a page about yourself? If that is correct, please check out WP:AUTOBIO for more information about accomplishing that. TiggerJay (talk) 04:05, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cewal21: Hi, Christine. Can you provide a list of those bad links? The ones you added yourself have been reverted, and a cursory look at all of the links to Christine Walters appear to be for the Australian football player. -Arch dude (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
noindex tag found for page, despite no flags/banners
Hello, I have recently published a page under the following link: Matatia Foa'i and it was approved by Wikipedia and published onto the main namespace. The page appears in Wikipedia's internal search results and does not have any visible flags, banners, or issues that I can identify. However, when I checked the source code, I found a noindex tag (<meta name="robots" content="noindex,follow">), which prevents the page from being indexed by search engines like Google. If possible, i would really appreciate knowing why the noindex tag has been applied to this page and what steps I can take to have the tag removed so the page can be indexed. The page is based on reliable and independent sources and meets the notability guidelines to the best of my knowledge. Could someone help me determine why this is happening and how I could resolve it? Thank you kindly for your assistance! Anitanour (talk) 04:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Anitanour new articles are, by default, not indexed by search engines until a new page reviewer has checked it or if 90 days have passed since its creation. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol#Other issues for more info. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Does this mean that it is only a matter of time rather than something that i would have to fix or address? Anitanour (talk) 04:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- There's not much you need to do - the article is currently in the queue and a reviewer will check it sometime soon. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Does this mean that it is only a matter of time rather than something that i would have to fix or address? Anitanour (talk) 04:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Citation for an edit
I would like to add the name of a distant relative to the Wiki page "Volga Germans", section entitled "Notable people of Volga German descent". This person already has a Wikipedia page, but his name is not on this list. I know only from family oral history that he belongs on this list, his grandfather and my great-grandfather were brothers who emigrated together from Saratov, Russia to Canada in 1907. I have seen their arrival record on the Ancestry website. Other than that, I do not have any official sources I can cite. Is this sufficient citation? kcmeowski (talk) 05:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- It is helpful that the person you want to add already has an article on Wikipedia, however we still rely upon reliable sources to establish these sorts of inclusions. TiggerJay (talk) 05:06, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- In other words, Kcmeowski, we need a reference to a reliable published source that verifies that your relative was a Volga German. Unpublished family oral history is simply not adequate. Cullen328 (talk) 07:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information
Please create a seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information. 2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF (talk) 06:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you're asking for a separate website, then English-language Wikipedia, which is where you are, isn't the place to ask. You might try m:Wikimedia Forum, but your request there would have to be a lot more cogent and persuasive than what you've written above. -- Hoary (talk) 07:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is designed for all ages, so it is unclear why you are asking for a separate website. Have you tried the Simple English Wikipedia? Shantavira|feed me 14:14, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- They would be best suited to looking for a job for seniors on Indeed (a search away for that one), not asking for one here. Besides, Wikipedia is not a place for listings. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 14:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
why my edits are not visible on the page??
I recently visit the capcut wikipedia page and there I edited the external link and add the relavent link which was https://capcetapk.com/slow-motion-walk-capcut-template/. But the edit is not updated and showing the previous link. Cletawindler (talk) 09:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the article edit history(click "View History" at the top) your edit was removed. The editor that did so felt that it was vandalism- I suggest you post on the article talk page to explain the reason for your edit. 331dot (talk) 09:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Even if that edit were not a good one, it is [{WP:NOTVANDAL|not vandalism]] and User:Beachweak should not have referred to it as such. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 2600:1700:4FD0:E6D0:F597:27CD:35AC:86FF (talk) 12:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cletawindler: If this is you, please remember to sign in before you edit or comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Search
I want to do a search. There is no place to enter a search on any page that I could find. Terry W Ryder (talk) 18:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Do you see a search bar at the top of the page? Or a icon on the top-left? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Special:Search. This is a common topic. Maybe a help-desk FAQ section would be helpful? Departure– (talk) 18:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)